guest: steve in hartford, connecticut, good morning. caller: good morning. wouldn't it be true that the best use of resources for nato's military spendingould be to get us off the use of oil , because every dollar we spend on oil eventually gets recycled to midst countries and used for weapons and terrorism. guest: that's a sail weren't int. part -- that's a sail can't point. if you think about this from a european perspective, the natural gas, the oil that comes from libya, it doesn't come to u.s. markets. itomes to european markets so. this was a more significant factor if you are a european thinking about the future of your economy and your ergy needs. efforts to push greater energy diversity, energy efficiency, there are certain ways to decrease dependency on the region, and i think that's a critical part of the sategy going forward. >> robert gates, in one of his last speeches, made news talking in brussels about coerns over europe's defense capabilities. here's a short piece from that, and then we'll be back with our guest. >> if current trends in the